A Podcast with Robots, Futsal and a Little Dancing 🤖⚽️

Exploring AI, autonomous machines and why people still matter most.

29 October 2026 - Last updated: 10 November 2026 -

The future may be increasingly digital. But nothing beats connecting with real people.

I’ve never recorded a podcast where I got to kick a ball around, watch the Dutch national futsal team train, take a tour of the KNVB Campus AND dance with a robot in between 🤣⚽️🤖

All while discussing a pretty serious question: in 10 years, could we be living and working alongside more robots than there are people on Earth?

For this special afternoon, I was a guest on PODCAST FRANNEMAR, hosted by Annemieke Hebenaar, Frank Karsten and Marja Olff. We recorded in the Innovation Lab at the KNVB Campus, in the podcast studio of Melanie van Halteren and Richard Van Tilborg from CoVince | to Grow, to Gather: the CoVince Obeya Room.

We talked about AI, adoption, robots and, above all, people.

Remco Koemans also joined us. Through his company, Stormcatch Robot Authorization, he is working on the digital identification and control of robots and other autonomous machines.

Because I don’t think the real question is whether robots will play a bigger role in our lives. That’s already happening. The real question is: what are we going to do with it?

And honestly, I make my living with AI, but I’m still much more excited by real human interaction. That’s exactly why I find this development so fascinating.

Thank you for the invitation, the tour and this very different kind of podcast afternoon. Without a doubt, this was the most adventurous podcast I’ve ever recorded 😄

Here’s the podcast: https://lnkd.in/dewiYtNx

Show me the magic in real life 🪄

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